tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post6846195058328040602..comments2010-08-05T05:42:35.911-07:00Comments on Leclaire's 6th Hour Honors American Lit Blog: Gatsby Fishbowl: Chapter 8Kristin Lhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15076857976818237278noreply@blogger.comBlogger102125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-89419787364991049262009-04-15T12:56:00.003-07:002009-04-15T12:56:00.003-07:00I think this chapter had great lines, and another ...I think this chapter had great lines, and another one I found was on page 157 of gold, "She vanished into her rich house, into her rich life, leaving Gatsby-nothing." This quote really just made me sad for what happened between Gatsby and Daisy. I don't approve of what he did, but also, Daisy seemed to be taking him for a ride, and now that she is done, she left Gatsby for nothing.melissazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16884058721407885822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-80105397481184128892009-04-15T12:56:00.002-07:002009-04-15T12:56:00.002-07:00Delaney- Oh, ok that makes sense! Thanks, I was ju...Delaney- Oh, ok that makes sense! Thanks, I was just kind of confused. Yeah I definitely see where you are coming from. I agree. Gatsby was deserving of some love at least especially after Daisy rejected him.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00132707806728429150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-2747374347828747842009-04-15T12:56:00.001-07:002009-04-15T12:56:00.001-07:00Do you think that if Gatsby wouldn't have been kil...Do you think that if Gatsby wouldn't have been killed that he would have moved on from Daisy? Do you think that he might have commited suicide if he wouldn't have been murdered?catemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04089144759362588600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-24078987054353482312009-04-15T12:56:00.000-07:002009-04-15T12:56:00.000-07:00Do you guys think that any of the characters "live...Do you guys think that any of the characters "lived happily ever after" or came to a resolution at the end of this story? Or do you think everyone went back to how they were at the beginning of the book still searching for their own poersonal solution and still trying to achieve what they want?EmilyJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13920582438893890921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-40097195583228899272009-04-15T12:55:00.002-07:002009-04-15T12:55:00.002-07:00amyW - Yes. And it is making a statement about ho...amyW - Yes. And it is making a statement about how these people retreat into their wealth and their comfort, but they are merely running away from their problems. Yet their problems are not solved. They just got lucky this time with Wilson killing Gatsby and "cleaning up" this mess for them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-21690212149136988392009-04-15T12:55:00.001-07:002009-04-15T12:55:00.001-07:00Yesterday in the inner circle we talked about how ...Yesterday in the inner circle we talked about how the word twilight is used in every chapter. What's the significance of this?amywhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05690923943625016100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-44640682984825032432009-04-15T12:55:00.000-07:002009-04-15T12:55:00.000-07:00Whitney~
Ah I love that quote it's on of my favori...Whitney~<br />Ah I love that quote it's on of my favorite! It just describes what a mess Tom and Daisy had made in other people's lives. How the created the disaster which was up roared at the end but was taken out on Gatsby and Myrtle, even though they didn't cause it. It explains how they single handedly destroyed two lives and didn't even care since they moved on with their lives and made a mysterious trip because they had the money to do so. They were selfish.kennawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03343060798713548405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-73192072270856933622009-04-15T12:54:00.002-07:002009-04-15T12:54:00.002-07:00MorganT- Nick liked Gatsby in the end because FSF ...MorganT- Nick liked Gatsby in the end because FSF wanted to show that even though Gatsby fell apart and became weak, he was in reality a good person and was deserving of love from at least one person (aka a friend, aka Nick).delaney nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10971227534500371969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-63897814957899718622009-04-15T12:54:00.001-07:002009-04-15T12:54:00.001-07:00Kenna- That makes sense. Its like the book opened ...Kenna- That makes sense. Its like the book opened his eyes to how the world saw him, and Tom's character made him realize the corrupt life he actually lives.marissashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02384782697017545052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-57642736963640501692009-04-15T12:54:00.000-07:002009-04-15T12:54:00.000-07:00lizc---I hadn't thought of this before but it make...lizc---I hadn't thought of this before but it makes sense! He contrasted the extremity of the other characters with the neutrality of Nick to show how ridiculous and materialistic they really were.amywhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05690923943625016100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-28635660438531792452009-04-15T12:53:00.003-07:002009-04-15T12:53:00.003-07:00Mollyd~ More on Michaelis, (sorry I just think he ...Mollyd~ More on Michaelis, (sorry I just think he is really interesting) I think that he is included also because he is Greek, and he seems more human and concerned than all the American characters. I think that he is trying to say how low American standards have become.catemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04089144759362588600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-17191703182737290212009-04-15T12:53:00.002-07:002009-04-15T12:53:00.002-07:00ShannanP- I really liked what you asked about how ...ShannanP- I really liked what you asked about how if people have to have complete infatuation with each other for it to be a love story. And I'm going to say DEFINITELY not. You can have one character in a story and have it be a love story. This has nothing to do with Gatsby, but it reminds me of Into the Wild sort of. It was a love story because he loved nature and adventure. THere are other aspects in the novel besides relationships that can also make it a love story.delaney nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10971227534500371969noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-83638194914723160832009-04-15T12:53:00.001-07:002009-04-15T12:53:00.001-07:00whitneys---This quote jumped out at me. It pretty ...whitneys---This quote jumped out at me. It pretty much sums up a lot of the people in this society. Maybe it's FSF commenting on his own society, despite the fact that he and Zelda were "King and Queen of the Jazz Age." I think it's very true, definitely.amywhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05690923943625016100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-42426830101520613512009-04-15T12:53:00.000-07:002009-04-15T12:53:00.000-07:00Kenna
I think that the whole thing about how FSF ...Kenna <br />I think that the whole thing about how FSF uses lots of representation in the book. He choices to be tom because I think that Tom was the man he wanted to be, always having an easy life. I think that he wanted to show how he would protect his wife and support her even if things between them had not been best just like Tom does for Daisy when Wilson comes searching.Oliviakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11206919039024107727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-40012298525354002242009-04-15T12:52:00.005-07:002009-04-15T12:52:00.005-07:00Kenna: Although I think that FSF was many of the c...Kenna: Although I think that FSF was many of the characters, I think that he was Gatsby the most. he was so in love with Zelda (daisy) that he would do anything for her. He died an unfortunate death that really didn't reflect on his personality or intelligence (just like Gatsby's murder)it was just bare and bleakKiraWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09254379644908141311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-35468910191184844142009-04-15T12:52:00.004-07:002009-04-15T12:52:00.004-07:00I think that Nick was really a neutral character a...I think that Nick was really a neutral character and Fitzgerald needed him to compare to the rest of the characters to show how rediculous they really were and how much they wasted their life on foolish things.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12756426265527503133noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-19216181789067404312009-04-15T12:52:00.003-07:002009-04-15T12:52:00.003-07:00Kate- Yeah, this section totally took me by supris...Kate- Yeah, this section totally took me by suprise because I thought Nick really looked up to Gatsby and wanted to be a part of his life, yet here he says that he disapproved of him. I think that Nick genuinly liked Gatsby, and he respected him. He disaproved of what he did and how he spent his life, that was what this quote may have been saying.melissazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16884058721407885822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-11111312497624050772009-04-15T12:52:00.002-07:002009-04-15T12:52:00.002-07:00ShannanP - yes, I do think it is a realistic love ...ShannanP - yes, I do think it is a realistic love story instead of all the mooshy chick flicks that all us girls always eat up and then are disappointed when it comes to real love.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-81527619962170989892009-04-15T12:52:00.001-07:002009-04-15T12:52:00.001-07:00Delaney- That does make sense and I see where you ...Delaney- That does make sense and I see where you are coming from, but then Nick liked Gatsby in the end. If it was so important for the development of Gatsby's character that Nick lost interest in him or whatever, why did he like him in the end all of a sudden?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00132707806728429150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-13511268683694495772009-04-15T12:52:00.000-07:002009-04-15T12:52:00.000-07:00amyw-
I think that it's very wise that like Delane...amyw-<br />I think that it's very wise that like Delaney you also mentioned that the characters were motivated by love and all of their actions were in search of love, but does that truly make it a love story?shannanphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05423102894439816711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-11266478119151379352009-04-15T12:51:00.001-07:002009-04-15T12:51:00.001-07:00Marissa~ I definitely agree that he was putting sa...Marissa~ I definitely agree that he was putting satire on his own life. Maybe by doing that, he saw what he had really become and outside critics and people started to not like him. Maybe the book taught him a lesson on himself.kennawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03343060798713548405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-61811609760215978592009-04-15T12:51:00.000-07:002009-04-15T12:51:00.000-07:00ShannaP - I agree!!! And I think that one quote th...ShannaP - I agree!!! And I think that one quote that totally summarizes it is this:<br /><br />"They were careless people, Tom and Daisy-they smashed up things and creatures and then retreated back into their money or their vast carelessness or whatever it was that kept them together, and let other poeple clean up the mess they had made.." (Fitz 188).<br /><br />What do you guys think of this quote?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-37527728766537828562009-04-15T12:50:00.001-07:002009-04-15T12:50:00.001-07:00mollyd---I don't even think HE would know how he f...mollyd---I don't even think HE would know how he feels toward Gatsby. His opinion constantly changes, which is sort of a commentary on the fickleness of society, at least in my opinion.amywhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05690923943625016100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-57807139012654740052009-04-15T12:50:00.000-07:002009-04-15T12:50:00.000-07:00KennaW-
I do think that it's a tragic story, but s...KennaW-<br />I do think that it's a tragic story, but somehow I don't think that it's a tragic love story. I think that love storied have to end in love and it seems that no one was ever in love except for Gatsby. Daisy didn't even seem like she was in love with Gatsby because wouldn't she have stuck by him?shannanphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05423102894439816711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-92029606705130315012009-04-15T12:49:00.004-07:002009-04-15T12:49:00.004-07:00MelissaZ~ I think that in this case Nick got to a ...MelissaZ~ I think that in this case Nick got to a point where he disapproved of what he was doing to Daisy and Tom because he said at the beginning of the book that he liked him a lot. He didn't like Gatsby's action but he like him as a person, if that makes sense.kennawhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03343060798713548405noreply@blogger.com