tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post6767145110049327011..comments2010-08-05T05:42:35.911-07:00Comments on Leclaire's 6th Hour Honors American Lit Blog: Gatsby Fishbowl: Chapter 7Kristin Lhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15076857976818237278noreply@blogger.comBlogger108125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-56396997435511441102009-04-13T17:11:00.000-07:002009-04-13T17:11:00.000-07:00ParkerH – I definitely think they were conspiring ...ParkerH – I definitely think they were conspiring and that they killed Gatsby and Mr. Wilson. I think that they were sick of other things plaguing their marriage, because they did love each other they had just fallen out of love. I don’t know but that part really confused me, especially when she had just told Tom that she was leaving him for Gatsby, so I am unsure about what really happened. But I do think that because Myrtle was dead and out of Tom’s life, Daisy and Tom saw it as an opportunity to fix their marriage and get away by killing the only things really holding them back.<br /><br />MarissaS- That is an interesting comparison. I think Fitzgerald is using it to show that no matter what, Gatsby does not change or grow at all throughout the book. He so obsessed with the past that he really cannot live at all. But really interesting and cool comparison.<br /><br />As far as Daisy killing Myrtle on purpose, I strongly disagree. I think that is was completely by accident and that Fitzgerald used it as an interesting to way to show that if you really wanted something to be out of your life, you can remove it. <br /><br />Morgan T – About that quote about the men being sick and well, I think Nick was definitely revealing to the reader that Gatsby was not well and that set him apart from Tom. With the way that Gatsby obsessed over Daisy shows this mental sickness and I think Nick finally reveals this to the reader in this quote.<br />I agree with you guys about Daisy’s lack of love for her daughter. I definitely think that she does not love her and is merely something she holds onto when she is questioning her marriage. Her daughter is something she can look to and be like “See, we had a child so our marriage is fine and we are happy.” <br /><br />Oooh! I like this symbolism you guys talked about with the heat! I think it is totally a metaphor to the tension between all the characters because it is something they absolutely can’t stand. So I agree with LaurenC, it is a symbol of the secrets they hide from each other just tearing them up inside. <br /><br />OliviaK – Interesting find about the green color being linked with Daisy! I definitely think it has to do with the fact that she is a source of life for Gatsby. Green to me is a color that represents spring and life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-69672278105747793882009-04-13T13:14:00.003-07:002009-04-13T13:14:00.003-07:00rachels-I think it can't. Actual love can't leave,...rachels-<BR/>I think it can't. Actual love can't leave, but infatuation or something along those lines can. The inner circle was kind of saying that it could, but then they said otherwise... but I think love can't just "go away".ParkerHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00768507795445854018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-42852716605813667782009-04-13T13:14:00.002-07:002009-04-13T13:14:00.002-07:00Daisy and Tom both are energized by controll over ...Daisy and Tom both are energized by controll over other people and that is why they can't be happy with only eachother.rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04332243284089791756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-62219559932428514882009-04-13T13:14:00.001-07:002009-04-13T13:14:00.001-07:00Shannan - After reading this chapter I think Daisy...Shannan - After reading this chapter I think Daisy might not want to actually leave Tom but instead get back at him for cheating on her. So yes I think the envy does relate to her because she envyed the love that Tom showed to Myrtle and wanted it for herself. I think Daisy loves attention and loves love! She craves it from both her husband and her former loverLaurenchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12054801168706576090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-18874534734342954812009-04-13T13:14:00.000-07:002009-04-13T13:14:00.000-07:00Sabrina, I definitely think that Myrtle's death wi...Sabrina, I definitely think that Myrtle's death will separate Gatsby and Daisy. I predict that he'll be arrested for the murder, or he won't want to be with her because she's a murderer, although he didn't seem too concerned with the fact at the time.maddiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07104501383552001025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-60436790781219045852009-04-13T13:13:00.002-07:002009-04-13T13:13:00.002-07:00Marissa-So could it represent the kind of green li...Marissa-<BR/>So could it represent the kind of green light that Gatsby had been suppressing until he found Daisy again and then went back for her love?shannanphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05423102894439816711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-33693918114691926072009-04-13T13:13:00.001-07:002009-04-13T13:13:00.001-07:00RachaelS: YEAH!!! It completely still seems to me ...RachaelS: YEAH!!! It completely still seems to me like a childish middle school relationship! They don't know what to do together once they are actually together!! I think that Daisy is gonna go crazy, or one of the men will decide for her!MattNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07461795084682756926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-32325988223426411282009-04-13T13:13:00.000-07:002009-04-13T13:13:00.000-07:00Kiraw, Shannon, and Catem-Okay so Sabrina googled ...Kiraw, Shannon, and Catem-Okay so Sabrina googled the cover image and the painter said it was Daisy's face. She could be crying because of the pain and suffering the men are putting her through...the carnival thing could be the trivial extravagant mess her life has turned into.roserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04232751482663420630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-37567316188597186702009-04-13T13:12:00.003-07:002009-04-13T13:12:00.003-07:00Why does everything have to be so fake and straine...Why does everything have to be so fake and strained? Not just in the book, because it definitely has that in there, but in life too? How much of life do we spend just playing the game?ParkerHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00768507795445854018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-6432025993835662182009-04-13T13:12:00.002-07:002009-04-13T13:12:00.002-07:00Do you guys think that love can leave?Do you guys think that love can leave?rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04332243284089791756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-42592438393187506142009-04-13T13:12:00.001-07:002009-04-13T13:12:00.001-07:00LaurenC-That is so true this book really is just a...LaurenC-<BR/>That is so true this book really is just about conveting what your "neighbor" has. Do you think that it has any direct connection to just Daisy?shannanphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05423102894439816711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-13115065706092930992009-04-13T13:12:00.000-07:002009-04-13T13:12:00.000-07:00Maddie: Agreed. I think that there is alot of simp...Maddie: Agreed. I think that there is alot of simple and pointless ideas that are set out that show the simplicity of society. But at the same time keeps you entrigued and wanting to find out what is really going on behind the scenes.KiraWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09254379644908141311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-26804475929358571332009-04-13T13:11:00.004-07:002009-04-13T13:11:00.004-07:00Maddie- I so feel like this book is a soap opera. ...Maddie- I so feel like this book is a soap opera. I think maybe FSF was trying to say that society can be affected by anything and anything can set something off.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00132707806728429150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-5739368896967139682009-04-13T13:11:00.003-07:002009-04-13T13:11:00.003-07:00Shannanp~ This was kind of brought up in the inner...Shannanp~ This was kind of brought up in the inner circle, but I think that all the possible symbolisisms(I don't know if that right) for greeen reveal how many situtations/emotions are brought up with just love. Kind of like Kenna is saying in the inner circle.catemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04089144759362588600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-5552013201835852242009-04-13T13:11:00.002-07:002009-04-13T13:11:00.002-07:00Shannon- Like they talked about in the inner circl...Shannon- Like they talked about in the inner circle, I just think the green light always sybolizes Gatsby's hopes and dreams... AKA Daisy. Towards the beginning, it was like the green light at the end of tunnel, guiding him to reach his goals. Then when he gives up on Daisy, it is a pysical representation of his failure, adding to his distress.marissashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02384782697017545052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-22520231340115304522009-04-13T13:11:00.001-07:002009-04-13T13:11:00.001-07:00Maddie - I think the novel has been like a soap op...Maddie - I think the novel has been like a soap opera from the very beginning! All these affairs and complex relationships are really hard to imagine ever actually happening. It's all so dramatic too, especially with the murder in this chapter.Laurenchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12054801168706576090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-16454187775590706682009-04-13T13:11:00.000-07:002009-04-13T13:11:00.000-07:00I think that Gatsby would almost be lost if he act...I think that Gatsby would almost be lost if he actually married Daisy because he is so attached to the fight to find the girl he was in love with before yet he never can because they both changed, there is a reason love changes as people grow. Often I don't want Daisy and Gatsby to get together because their love is built on the past not the future or the present.rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04332243284089791756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-25765467864056555232009-04-13T13:10:00.001-07:002009-04-13T13:10:00.001-07:00Do you think that later in the book the car crash ...Do you think that later in the book the car crash will have greater significance later on in the book? I feel that it will be the final factor ripping Daisy and Gatsby apart.sabrinadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05875515825872266386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-67405931139098995462009-04-13T13:10:00.000-07:002009-04-13T13:10:00.000-07:00roser-Maybe Myrtle is crying because she is mourni...roser-<BR/>Maybe Myrtle is crying because she is mourning a life that she never got to have. A life in which she was married to someone that she loved and that loved her. She also would be able to see that Daisy and Gatsby have a true love and she wishes that it was her.shannanphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05423102894439816711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-34070899969595388622009-04-13T13:09:00.002-07:002009-04-13T13:09:00.002-07:00Rose, Cate, Shannon: I think that the eyes maybe a...Rose, Cate, Shannon: I think that the eyes maybe are Jordan's, the woman on the outside that is looking out all over of the characters and the whole story. What do you think about the carnival looking thing in the background?KiraWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09254379644908141311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-3585964245603144012009-04-13T13:09:00.001-07:002009-04-13T13:09:00.001-07:00Does anyone else feel like this book has turned in...Does anyone else feel like this book has turned into a bit of a soap opera? XD There feels like there's so much tension and drama, while the rest of the book is pointless descriptions of people's personalities and parties. What is Fitzgerald trying to say about society then?maddiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07104501383552001025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-90401402134252469772009-04-13T13:09:00.000-07:002009-04-13T13:09:00.000-07:00KarlyH: Yeah i completely agree! i think it is exa...KarlyH: Yeah i completely agree! i think it is exactly what Delaney just talked about! It's really not even their! They don't love each other and honestly i don't think they can even confide in each other!MattNhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07461795084682756926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-12299446252649842452009-04-13T13:08:00.000-07:002009-04-13T13:08:00.000-07:00Shannon - I think the green symbolizes envy since...Shannon - I think the green symbolizes envy since it seems like everyone in this novel is in love with someone they can't have. This whole society is overflowing with envy for money, love, and material objects.Laurenchttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12054801168706576090noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-74787990485915034412009-04-13T13:06:00.003-07:002009-04-13T13:06:00.003-07:00What do you guys think that green is symbolic of?What do you guys think that green is symbolic of?shannanphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05423102894439816711noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-4995237464679935862009-04-13T13:06:00.002-07:002009-04-13T13:06:00.002-07:00maddief- I think that Daisy is really confused. At...maddief- I think that Daisy is really confused. At the beginning of the chapter Daisy makes sure Nick is coming and he knows something is up, so Daisy and Gatsby were probably planning on telling Tom that Daisy was going to leave him. When it comes time to do it though, Daisy lost her nerve and admits that she loves both of them. I think that Gatsby expects Daisy to leave Tom for him and always has.KatePhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05494026803062056112noreply@blogger.com