tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post1306916376948758011..comments2010-08-05T05:42:35.911-07:00Comments on Leclaire's 6th Hour Honors American Lit Blog: Gatsby Fishbowl: Chapter 2Kristin Lhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15076857976818237278noreply@blogger.comBlogger125125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-56306439120728449902009-04-10T08:18:00.000-07:002009-04-10T08:18:00.000-07:00This is my make-up blog.@amy- I don' think Myrtle ...This is my make-up blog.<BR/><BR/>@amy- I don' think Myrtle and Tom get divorced and marry each other because I think they each find safety in their spouses. Tom values commitment, but doesn't seem to want to give it himself. He wants to have someone there for him always so he feels like he always has power over someone.<BR/><BR/>@maddie- Once again, I just think Tom needs power and is willing to use violence in order to maintain that power. And no, I don't believe he is in love with Daisy, but he felt guilty whenever Mytle mentioned her name. <BR/><BR/>@Olivia- I don't think Nick is a weak character. I think at this point in the story, we were still trying to get to know him. He isn't as outspoken as Tom, and I thnk he just has better judgement. he wanted to leave before it got out of hand, unlike the other partygoers. That doesn't make him weak.marissashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02384782697017545052noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-83730249291000679162009-04-02T13:15:00.002-07:002009-04-02T13:15:00.002-07:00Alex- I don't think there is any of FSF in the lad...Alex- I don't think there is any of FSF in the ladies of the story, and I think there will be more looks into the similarlties of Gatsby and FSF as the story progresses. Possibly every main man could carry one piece to his own life.melissazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16884058721407885822noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-80040233449661446532009-04-02T13:15:00.001-07:002009-04-02T13:15:00.001-07:00parkerh---I know! This makes me so sad that intell...parkerh---I know! This makes me so sad that intelligence intimidates some people.amywhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05690923943625016100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-20515548207215808292009-04-02T13:15:00.000-07:002009-04-02T13:15:00.000-07:00Alex- I never thought of that before! For some rea...Alex- I never thought of that before! For some reason though, I see Wilson as a more submissive character and I can't see him having an affair.KarlyHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06245771181814122878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-16652614239362550112009-04-02T13:14:00.001-07:002009-04-02T13:14:00.001-07:00Daisy reminds me of pudden head wilson because she...Daisy reminds me of pudden head wilson because she is just thought of as that girl who is pretty and thats about it when in reality she is just way smarter then the rest of them so they dont know how to respond to her.rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04332243284089791756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-8873013827966025502009-04-02T13:14:00.000-07:002009-04-02T13:14:00.000-07:00Amy-Often times, intelligent women are STILL consi...Amy-<BR/>Often times, intelligent women are STILL considered intimidating. I don't have a problem with intelligent people, regardless of race or gender, but some people sadly still feel that way.ParkerHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00768507795445854018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-28319576022590751532009-04-02T13:13:00.002-07:002009-04-02T13:13:00.002-07:00I think that an important thing to remember in the...I think that an important thing to remember in the relationship between Daisy and Tom is their child. Daisy wishes for her child to have a perfect life and I think Daisy thinks that socially things might not be as easy for her if she comes from a broken home because society looked down on divorce.KarlyHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06245771181814122878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-1139488696135680992009-04-02T13:13:00.001-07:002009-04-02T13:13:00.001-07:00rachels that is what I was trying to say when I sa...rachels that is what I was trying to say when I said that comment.Oliviakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11206919039024107727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-21985903791089740402009-04-02T13:13:00.000-07:002009-04-02T13:13:00.000-07:00MelissaZ~I agree that he put bits and pieces of hi...MelissaZ~<BR/>I agree that he put bits and pieces of himself in all the characters! What parts of himself do you think he put in Gatsby? (Now, of course, we don’t know anything about him…except that he’s popular). I can see how he put his “love for love” in Tom, and his drinking disabilities in Nick, but what about Gatsby? Or maybe, is any of FSF in Daisy/Myrtle?alexfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00945327406690770767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-24380867549932336712009-04-02T13:12:00.000-07:002009-04-02T13:12:00.000-07:00catem---Exactly. Society entreats women to act a c...catem---Exactly. Society entreats women to act a certain way, and they pretty much have to. Intelligent women were intimidating, so she has to hide this part of herself around her husband and other people.amywhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05690923943625016100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-10810896432615726092009-04-02T13:11:00.004-07:002009-04-02T13:11:00.004-07:00Lauren, I completely agree with your thought that ...Lauren, I completely agree with your thought that Myrtle and Tom are sharing a fake love. Do you think it's based on benefits instead of true caring for each other?maddiefhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07104501383552001025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-74022682596959076872009-04-02T13:11:00.003-07:002009-04-02T13:11:00.003-07:00Kira- I am not sure why they would be so similar. ...Kira- I am not sure why they would be so similar. Maybe Tom just likes a certain kind of woman but does not like the environment he is in with Daisy. Maybe he wants a city life with the same kind of people. But I don't really know. Just a thought.mollydhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10024226616906479316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-6871500601340390762009-04-02T13:11:00.002-07:002009-04-02T13:11:00.002-07:00Rachels~ I agree. I think that Daisy just puts fo...Rachels~ I agree. I think that Daisy just puts forth a fake front so she doesn't intimidate her guests and friends. I think this kind of reflects the standards for society for women.catemhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04089144759362588600noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-33196441823873261582009-04-02T13:11:00.001-07:002009-04-02T13:11:00.001-07:00Olivia~ everyone hurts people. Loving someone does...Olivia~ everyone hurts people. Loving someone doesn’t make them impervious to flaws and to do bad things. I think loving people despite the pain can show love. I know I love my friends but I know I have and do and will hurt them. I don’t want to but I do just as you and everyone. Everyone hurts other people and everyone gets hurt I think.jordanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16197103537470463100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-73818555603328789172009-04-02T13:11:00.000-07:002009-04-02T13:11:00.000-07:00Olivia-I think you can love someone and hurt them ...Olivia-I think you can love someone and hurt them but you cannot truly love some one hurt them and not feel remorse about it. I mean think about it everyone hurts people they love but i do not think you can cheat on someone you love.rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04332243284089791756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-2720364288971975102009-04-02T13:10:00.000-07:002009-04-02T13:10:00.000-07:00Lauren-Ok, that helps. Sorry if I blew up on you &...Lauren-<BR/>Ok, that helps. Sorry if I blew up on you >.< But yeah, I never think affairs or inappropriate relationships are a good thing. Good point.ParkerHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00768507795445854018noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-23801503823715649602009-04-02T13:09:00.004-07:002009-04-02T13:09:00.004-07:00rachels---I agree. She has a very sharp wit and so...rachels---I agree. She has a very sharp wit and sounds intelligent. There's a lot to her, but a lot of people just write her off as stupid.amywhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05690923943625016100noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-53731909484028597462009-04-02T13:09:00.003-07:002009-04-02T13:09:00.003-07:00Jordan - I think Tom does love Daisy, at least som...Jordan - I think Tom does love Daisy, at least some part of him does, he's just bored or feels let down or something. I don't think he's satisfied with his marriage, that's why he has Myrtle. Myrtle has something to offer that Daisy doesn't.meganuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11445318662961125308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-54865379568693343642009-04-02T13:09:00.002-07:002009-04-02T13:09:00.002-07:00jordans- I think that cares for Daisy, but I don't...jordans- I think that cares for Daisy, but I don't think that he is truly in love with her or else he wouldn't go off and cheat with Myrtle.KatePhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05494026803062056112noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-66601286054940325452009-04-02T13:09:00.001-07:002009-04-02T13:09:00.001-07:00Cate- That's a good way of looking at it, and it's...Cate- That's a good way of looking at it, and it's an interesting point. I don't disagree with you, I just think it was a physical representation of Myrtle demonstrating her superiority.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00132707806728429150noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-2894317498217704292009-04-02T13:09:00.000-07:002009-04-02T13:09:00.000-07:00KarlyH~I was wondering the exact same thing! I ha...KarlyH~<BR/>I was wondering the exact same thing! I half think he does know that she’s cheating on him, but that he just has to accept it. The reason I say this is because she’s apparently so “superior” to him, that maybe he is okay with her having an affair as long as he gets to say that she is his wife. Also, could maybe he be cheating on her also? I don’t know why, but I just get the feeling that everyone is having an affair with everyone else’s spouse…alexfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00945327406690770767noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-46407305746827851162009-04-02T13:08:00.006-07:002009-04-02T13:08:00.006-07:00As to what the inner circle is talking about, I th...As to what the inner circle is talking about, I think that Myrtle and Daisy were really similar. I think if Tom really wanted to have an affair, why do you think that he would have chosen someone so similar?KiraWhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09254379644908141311noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-3017619066290827512009-04-02T13:08:00.005-07:002009-04-02T13:08:00.005-07:00Parkerh - Yeah sorry if I wasn't clear but I did s...Parkerh - Yeah sorry if I wasn't clear but I did say that I understand there are different kinds of love. I'm just saying that in this case I don't think it's okay for Tom and Myrtle to be involved in this almost false sense of loveLauren Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09389836835188237144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-13965170524198739942009-04-02T13:08:00.004-07:002009-04-02T13:08:00.004-07:00I think Daisy is actually very smart. It's not her...I think Daisy is actually very smart. It's not her fault that her husband is a Jerk! Honestly stupid people cannot converse as Daisy does.rachelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04332243284089791756noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1556972819704554909.post-71153645769658556852009-04-02T13:08:00.003-07:002009-04-02T13:08:00.003-07:00Jordan I don't think that one can truely love some...Jordan <BR/>I don't think that one can truely love someone if they can hurt them. If they truely loved someone why would they want to hurt them?Oliviakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11206919039024107727noreply@blogger.com